"THE SMITHS WERE A GROUP AND A SOUND AND A LOOK AND A MEANING
THAT HAD NO TIES TO ANYTHING AT ALL THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY HAPPENED."
Once,
he was the bespectacled singer of archetypal British guitar band
The Smiths; now he's living in Los Angeles and shopping for a label.
Morrissey ruminates on his former groups legacy, coming to terms
with the past, and selling out the Hollywood Bowl faster than anyone
else.
Can
we talk about what you're doing now in terms of your career?
That will be a very brief conversation. I'm looking for a deal.
I don't have a deal, and I haven't had a deal since Mercury collapsed
two-and-a-half years ago. So, I'm searching. And I'm open and free
and available—not free, but I'm available.
Do
you think Britpop filled the vacuum left by The Smiths?
Yes, well, I think that was because when The Smiths began, there
really wasn't independent or alternative music. I mean, independent
was the English word and alternative was the American word. Yes,
it did exist, but it wasn't in, as we say in England, high street
shops. It wasn't in the high street chains, and The Smiths brought
it—they were the first independent group to put music into places
like Woolworth's and W. H. Smith and all the big, boring conglomerates.
But suddenly, in the late '80s, everybody tried to be independent
and alternative, and it just became such a terrible cliché.
Was
there a pinnacle moment with The Smiths?
Well, it was always a victory with The Smiths, although we were
never accepted by the American press—which was very, very difficult
because we did extraordinarily well considering what we came from
and that we had zero finances behind us. I mean, if anybody these
days with no financial backing can do well, it's an absolute miracle.
I mean, it doesn't actually really happen anymore. But with The
Smiths, every day a small barrier was breaking down. And there was
extreme resistance to us in England because we were independent
and we were shabby and we were poor and we didn't play any game
at all. But the fact that we none the less won, it's incredible.
Did
The Smiths change the world?
I think we did completely. I think we changed lots of things
because, if you remember the start of the '80s, if you remember
the accepted sound of pop music, well, The Smiths were not a part
of that. And The Smiths made music which sounded very affordable
to people. And I'm afraid, perhaps, it was tied in with the whole
punk ethic, you know—the boring expression that everybody can do
it. And I think that really did inspire lots of people because at
the time, everything was so overbearingly glittery, overbearingly
rich, and very conservative. The Smiths were a group and a sound
and a look and a meaning that had no ties to anything at all that
had previously happened.
Can
you make peace with your former self?
I'd have no wish to meet that person. I'd be down the fire escape
before you could sound the alarm bells.
You
can't say that.
I have. I just said it.
Will
you and Johnny Marr ever reconcile your differences?
Too much has happened, really, and, in actual truth, we don't
actually like each other.
What
do you think your role is today, because you really are like a figurehead
and mean so much to so many people?
You know, my position has never really changed. I mean, people
talk about The Smiths and the solo years, but they really have been
the same in many regards because I've never been accepted by the
music industry. I've never been a part of anything. I've never been
invited to take part in VH1 or MTV, which is extraordinary. I have
had very significant minor achievements; I still hold the record
for selling out the Hollywood Bowl faster than anybody else.
How
do you like America? I always found LA a little too bright.
That's the main reason why I like it. I like the brightness.
I find it very uplifting. Even though I don't go out and I don't
mix with people—which in LA is, believe me, a survival instinct.
What
is the biggest misconception about you?
That I'm unpleasant. I think people—there seems to be some small
reputation that goes around that I'm argumentative and strutting
and violent. I'm the most gentle person in the universe. So it's
quite baffling. But, you know, once those little reputations are
passed around, they become the truth in some ways.